I have just spoken to a Senior (Head of Traffic) regarding weights of code EB license,  here is what he said, and confirmed by Snr State Prosecutors:

With a code EB you are allowed to drive a vehicle on SA roads where the vehicle's GVM  is not exceedind 3500kg, you are allowed to to tow any size Caravan with a GVM not exceeding the Tarra of the tow vehicle.

The only trick, so to speak is, your tow vehicle have, on its vin plate,  CVM Combined Vehicle Mass,  printed (stamped) on it, in total you may not exceed that as stated as on your VIN Plate.

In short, a tow vehicle's GVM could be 1800kg and your van GVM is say 1200kg, but the tow vehicle's CVM is limited to 2400kg, then you are illegal. This is just an example to illistrate, you are thus exceeding the safe load as specified  of the tow vehicle.

Thanks Johann

Johann, baie dankie. Dit is baie insiggewend en tot die punt, Ek glo baie teorie is nou uit die weg geruim.

Glad to know!

Baie van ons is nie in spec nie , so what ek het nou die dag n klomp Suzuki Jimneys in die wiltuin gekry met swifts agter aan .

So basies was ek reg?

Hou ook in gedagte, dat as jou sleep voertuig se GVM oorskry word, is jy ook onwettig. Sou jy dus soos ek die tent in my kar sit en nog wat, dan loop ek die risiko om ook my kar se GVM te oorskry. Dis nou waar bakkies soveel meer kan laai as ek met 'n kar.

Ek het tot die slotsom gekom, laai dit wat ek gaan gebruik, en koop aan soos nodig.

When mine was weighed at the Swellendam provincial weighbridge they checked lots of things.

Tyre specs on both vehicles, Tare of tow vehicle, GVM of the caravan, CVM of the tow vehicle they then proceeded to measure the distances between the axles (all three) as well as the overall distance this was all plugged into the their system which then spat out a number which said I was overweight by 100Kg 

Fortunately I pre-arranged with them while I was in Swellendam to weigh the van so never got a fine  

Interesting how quick it all weigh up to overloading

Brian did you empty your water tanks, and what did they say as to the 5% allowance?

I am just currious, as a 100L water rank = 100Kg.

Johann, help asb. Hier is my Ford en Classique se statistieke:

Die Ford (volgens handboek en lisensie-dokumente:

                 Gross Vehicle Weight                      3200kg   (handboek)

                 Gross Train Weight                          5950kg  (handboek) 

                 GVM                                                 3200kg  (lisensie)
                 Tare                                                  2087kg  (lisensie)

Die Classique:

                GVM                                                  1490kg ( Lisensie)

                Tare                                                   1266kg (Lisensie)

Ek het 'n kode EB lisensie. Is ek nog binne die wet en wat is my CVM.

Dankie Johann

Willem01, ek is geen ekspert nie en staan vir korreksie.

Volgens my is jou maksimum CVM dan 5950kg Ford se specs.

Die Ford mag jy laai, GVM - Tara (1113kg)

Die karavaan  GVM - Tarra (224 kg)

As jy dus nie oorlaai is nie is jou CVM- Ford GVM + Classique se GVM, (jou Ford se CVM is 5950kg maks wat hy mag gaan) maar jou kombinasie se CVM 3200 +1490 =4690kg

Dus is jy wettig, maar soos ek sal se, ek mag verkeerd wees, kom ons hoor wat se die ander manne.

Hoop maar ek maak sin

Dankie Johann. Dit maak sin, ek kon net nêrens die Ford se CVM kry nie. Nogmaals dankie

Willie

Anonymous wrote:

Brian did you empty your water tanks, and what did they say as to the 5% allowance?

I am just currious, as a 100L water rank = 100Kg.

Johann I only had 15l water in the tank at the time. They allowed me 5% so loosing the 15l water brought me to within the allowance they allowed. 

Anonymous wrote:

Willem01, ek is geen ekspert nie en staan vir korreksie.

Volgens my is jou maksimum CVM dan 5950kg Ford se specs.

Die Ford mag jy laai, GVM - Tara (1113kg)

Die karavaan  GVM - Tarra (224 kg)

As jy dus nie oorlaai is nie is jou CVM- Ford GVM + Classique se GVM, (jou Ford se CVM is 5950kg maks wat hy mag gaan) maar jou kombinasie se CVM 3200 +1490 =4690kg

Dus is jy wettig, maar soos ek sal se, ek mag verkeerd wees, kom ons hoor wat se die ander manne.

Hoop maar ek maak sin

I would not take for granted ANY Tare stamped on a Jurgens caravan, and assume you can load the difference to the GVM. 

The only way to be sure is to have it weighed at a weighbridge before and after you load it. I promise you you will be shocked.

Brian

YES

But I'm wondering, is that not with any caravan ?

WilSur wrote:

Brian

YES

But I'm wondering, is that not with any caravan ?

My tare was correct as per the reg papers.